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		<title>By: j hay</title>
		<link>http://burrowowl.net/wordpress/200701/freedom_vs_liberty_vs_anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-97710</link>
		<dc:creator>j hay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 17:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>posted to:

http://www.englishforums.com/English/FreedomVsLiberty/hzhkv/post.htm



FREEDOM is NOT Liberty


From a linguistic, definitional and etymological perspective, these two words do not have the same meaning.  

I assert that in fact, FREEDOM is a fabricated imposter for Liberty.  The founders of the United States 

understood this critical difference.  This is why Liberty is the word used in the Declaration of 

Independence.  Below is a comparison between the two words.  This example, while not fully documented here, 

provides substantial and sound assertions.  This comes after years of study in linguistics, etymology and 

history, as well as being a scholar and speaker of several languages.


FREEDOM
--------------

This word has two roots:  FREE and DOM.  In order to fully understand it&#039;s meaning it is necessary to 

examine it&#039;s roots.

FREE means that which is unrestrained.  This sounds pretty good.  Most everybody would agree that they want 

to choose for themselves.

DOM means to control or dominate.


FREEDOM linguistically and etymologically means:  &quot;Control/Domination over those who claim to be free&quot;

When you see a bumper sticker that says:  &quot;Freedom is not Free&quot;, they are 100% correct.  Freedom is not 

FREE, it is not LIBERTY it is a &#039;word-game&#039; meaning bondage.

Plese look up the meanings of the term &#039;DOM&#039; in the dictionary, Black&#039;s Law Dictionary and it&#039;s historic 

usage and etymological meaning.  You will always find this word related to CONTROL and DOMINATION.

Those who act irresponsibly and without restraint exercising their inherent powers without regard to causing 

harm, must be controlled and dominted by definition of the LAW.

FREEDOM is like a blank check saying: &quot;do whatever you want, hurt whoever you want, but we will execute 

judement upon you for your harmful actions&quot;

It is extremely important to realize that those who are FREE, and have LIBERTY must live by the golden rule 

or they are instantly &#039;transformed&#039; (X-FORMED, &quot;x marks the spot&quot;) into those who are subject to &#039;FREEDOM&#039;.



LIBERTY
-----------------

Contrary to many studies on the historic meaning of this word,  the true root meaning originates in: 

LIBE in indo-european (aka: germanic languages, the &#039;mother tongue&#039;) LIBE means LOVE or that  which one 

loves.  Also LIBE refers to LEBEN which mean LIFE. Therefore Liberty means LOVE and LIFE.  These 

word/meanings are fundamental connected meanings of LIBERTY.  The writers of the declaration of Independence 

understand this that is why they did not use the &quot;false&quot; substitute-word &#039;FREEDOM&#039; which truly is an 

imposter.


I want this information to be of benefit to my brothers and sisters on this planet.  If you read this, 

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE spread the word.

Love you all...  Wishing you all happiness and joy.... :)</description>
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<p>FREEDOM is NOT Liberty</p>
<p>From a linguistic, definitional and etymological perspective, these two words do not have the same meaning.  </p>
<p>I assert that in fact, FREEDOM is a fabricated imposter for Liberty.  The founders of the United States </p>
<p>understood this critical difference.  This is why Liberty is the word used in the Declaration of </p>
<p>Independence.  Below is a comparison between the two words.  This example, while not fully documented here, </p>
<p>provides substantial and sound assertions.  This comes after years of study in linguistics, etymology and </p>
<p>history, as well as being a scholar and speaker of several languages.</p>
<p>FREEDOM<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>This word has two roots:  FREE and DOM.  In order to fully understand it&#8217;s meaning it is necessary to </p>
<p>examine it&#8217;s roots.</p>
<p>FREE means that which is unrestrained.  This sounds pretty good.  Most everybody would agree that they want </p>
<p>to choose for themselves.</p>
<p>DOM means to control or dominate.</p>
<p>FREEDOM linguistically and etymologically means:  &#8220;Control/Domination over those who claim to be free&#8221;</p>
<p>When you see a bumper sticker that says:  &#8220;Freedom is not Free&#8221;, they are 100% correct.  Freedom is not </p>
<p>FREE, it is not LIBERTY it is a &#8216;word-game&#8217; meaning bondage.</p>
<p>Plese look up the meanings of the term &#8216;DOM&#8217; in the dictionary, Black&#8217;s Law Dictionary and it&#8217;s historic </p>
<p>usage and etymological meaning.  You will always find this word related to CONTROL and DOMINATION.</p>
<p>Those who act irresponsibly and without restraint exercising their inherent powers without regard to causing </p>
<p>harm, must be controlled and dominted by definition of the LAW.</p>
<p>FREEDOM is like a blank check saying: &#8220;do whatever you want, hurt whoever you want, but we will execute </p>
<p>judement upon you for your harmful actions&#8221;</p>
<p>It is extremely important to realize that those who are FREE, and have LIBERTY must live by the golden rule </p>
<p>or they are instantly &#8216;transformed&#8217; (X-FORMED, &#8220;x marks the spot&#8221;) into those who are subject to &#8216;FREEDOM&#8217;.</p>
<p>LIBERTY<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Contrary to many studies on the historic meaning of this word,  the true root meaning originates in: </p>
<p>LIBE in indo-european (aka: germanic languages, the &#8216;mother tongue&#8217;) LIBE means LOVE or that  which one </p>
<p>loves.  Also LIBE refers to LEBEN which mean LIFE. Therefore Liberty means LOVE and LIFE.  These </p>
<p>word/meanings are fundamental connected meanings of LIBERTY.  The writers of the declaration of Independence </p>
<p>understand this that is why they did not use the &#8220;false&#8221; substitute-word &#8216;FREEDOM&#8217; which truly is an </p>
<p>imposter.</p>
<p>I want this information to be of benefit to my brothers and sisters on this planet.  If you read this, </p>
<p>PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE spread the word.</p>
<p>Love you all&#8230;  Wishing you all happiness and joy&#8230;. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Burrowowl</title>
		<link>http://burrowowl.net/wordpress/200701/freedom_vs_liberty_vs_anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-35495</link>
		<dc:creator>Burrowowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I understand, Germany would lock this kook up. They have rather serious limitations of political speech that hints of their fascist past. 

As for political speech that calls for the removal of the US federal government, there has been a fair amount of precedent that suggests that the Supreme Court leans towards protection of the state over the protection of an individual&#039;s rights.  That said, a government can only exist while it holds the confidence of its people, regardless of what that government&#039;s statesmen, laws, courts, or even army may say to the contrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I understand, Germany would lock this kook up. They have rather serious limitations of political speech that hints of their fascist past. </p>
<p>As for political speech that calls for the removal of the US federal government, there has been a fair amount of precedent that suggests that the Supreme Court leans towards protection of the state over the protection of an individual&#8217;s rights.  That said, a government can only exist while it holds the confidence of its people, regardless of what that government&#8217;s statesmen, laws, courts, or even army may say to the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: Karuzikan</title>
		<link>http://burrowowl.net/wordpress/200701/freedom_vs_liberty_vs_anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-35394</link>
		<dc:creator>Karuzikan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth about the matter is that the /b/tards did it for fun and wanted to take it down for the hell of it. Hal Turner deserved what he got and is trying to lead a way of life that humanity looks down upon, and he is messing with a force that he cannot even survive against. There is no threat to his personal being, but there is a huge threat to his pride and he needs to realize when he has lost a war. There is not a single thing he can do to fix what has happened to him and he has been hit pretty hard, the best thing for him to do is to withdraw from the battle.

As of lately, it is rumored that he will be taking this to the courts, and if so, investigation will find the stuff he has said about the assassinations, and since a threat is as good as the actual deed, he could be arrested on the conspiracy to commit murder as well as charges to start a rebellion against the United States, which is exactly what he is doing. If he wants to live in a place where that is all fine and dandy, he&#039;d better go find it since not even Germany would be able to have him talking the stuff he has been. He needs to realize the world has changed, and I don&#039;t really mind him having his ideals. I believe we all have our own thoughts, maybe it might be better if he keeps some of it to himself as some of us keep our ideas to ourselves.

The freedom of speech goes as far as what is said in the constitution, but everything is limited under the understanding that there is a government and that they CAN control what we say and do. We do have the write to rid ourselves of this government if we voted for it, but don&#039;t expect that to ever happen. Speaking from someone that personally knows people on both sides of this battle, I know where the line is drawn and i&#039;m going to have to side with the /b/tards of 4chan as well as other websites.

Racism in any form is unacceptable in the United States and only leads to the discomfort of others of all races. Some people cannot see past the colors and realized that the only flaw is their own views. It doesn&#039;t matter though since all of this is just wishful thinking in the first place, and I highly doubt our would would be able to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth about the matter is that the /b/tards did it for fun and wanted to take it down for the hell of it. Hal Turner deserved what he got and is trying to lead a way of life that humanity looks down upon, and he is messing with a force that he cannot even survive against. There is no threat to his personal being, but there is a huge threat to his pride and he needs to realize when he has lost a war. There is not a single thing he can do to fix what has happened to him and he has been hit pretty hard, the best thing for him to do is to withdraw from the battle.</p>
<p>As of lately, it is rumored that he will be taking this to the courts, and if so, investigation will find the stuff he has said about the assassinations, and since a threat is as good as the actual deed, he could be arrested on the conspiracy to commit murder as well as charges to start a rebellion against the United States, which is exactly what he is doing. If he wants to live in a place where that is all fine and dandy, he&#8217;d better go find it since not even Germany would be able to have him talking the stuff he has been. He needs to realize the world has changed, and I don&#8217;t really mind him having his ideals. I believe we all have our own thoughts, maybe it might be better if he keeps some of it to himself as some of us keep our ideas to ourselves.</p>
<p>The freedom of speech goes as far as what is said in the constitution, but everything is limited under the understanding that there is a government and that they CAN control what we say and do. We do have the write to rid ourselves of this government if we voted for it, but don&#8217;t expect that to ever happen. Speaking from someone that personally knows people on both sides of this battle, I know where the line is drawn and i&#8217;m going to have to side with the /b/tards of 4chan as well as other websites.</p>
<p>Racism in any form is unacceptable in the United States and only leads to the discomfort of others of all races. Some people cannot see past the colors and realized that the only flaw is their own views. It doesn&#8217;t matter though since all of this is just wishful thinking in the first place, and I highly doubt our would would be able to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Burrowowl</title>
		<link>http://burrowowl.net/wordpress/200701/freedom_vs_liberty_vs_anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-33629</link>
		<dc:creator>Burrowowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, one important thing to consider is that the recent network attacks against Hal are not motivated by his political and racial views.  This is a case of over-inflated egos, mischief, and escalating retribution. Hal calls for all kinds of absurd nonsense, and likes to claim credit when something bad happens to those he considers to be his enemies. This is likely more a case of a loudmouth being delusional, rather than a loudmouth wielding any real influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, one important thing to consider is that the recent network attacks against Hal are not motivated by his political and racial views.  This is a case of over-inflated egos, mischief, and escalating retribution. Hal calls for all kinds of absurd nonsense, and likes to claim credit when something bad happens to those he considers to be his enemies. This is likely more a case of a loudmouth being delusional, rather than a loudmouth wielding any real influence.</p>
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		<title>By: morte</title>
		<link>http://burrowowl.net/wordpress/200701/freedom_vs_liberty_vs_anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-33607</link>
		<dc:creator>morte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Hal Turner, he&#039;s been recommending to his listeners that they &quot;assassinate&quot; new members of the 110th Congress who introduce, support or sponser amnesty bills for illegal immigrants. 

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/03/late-nite-fdl-and-they-call-us-unhinged-partie-deux/#more-6421

They&#039;re so civil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Hal Turner, he&#8217;s been recommending to his listeners that they &#8220;assassinate&#8221; new members of the 110th Congress who introduce, support or sponser amnesty bills for illegal immigrants. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/03/late-nite-fdl-and-they-call-us-unhinged-partie-deux/#more-6421" rel="nofollow">http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/03/late-nite-fdl-and-they-call-us-unhinged-partie-deux/#more-6421</a></p>
<p>They&#8217;re so civil.</p>
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